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 Post subject: Re: S. Holston Bugs
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:05 am 
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leave them long lanky bugs be!! :twisted: they ain't done nothin' to you!

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 Post subject: Re: S. Holston Bugs
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:20 am 
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Here are pics of the Crane Fly larva and pupa of what I think you’re seeing on the SoHo. Your interest in their emergence got my attention as well. I’ve collected thousands of the larvae and pupae over the years in benthic riffle samples, but have never really thought about their emergence. I can find very little on the life cycle of this particular genus. There has to be info out there; it simply is a matter of locating it. But the fact that both the larvae and pupae are found in the cobble/pebble riffles suggests they do emerge from that area, just like the caddis, Black Flies, and other critters.

Great job on the observations of the Cranes on the SoHo.


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 Post subject: Re: S. Holston Bugs
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:00 am 
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SWEET!! I'm on it!! The translucent pic of that pupae shows what looks pretty similar to the adult that's hatching on the SoHo. I'm gonna try tying something that's half-pupae (from this pic) & half-adult, & maybe give it a go today if I get time; anybody else wanna fish today?

I've still never actually seen one of these actually hatch...reminds me of when I first saw a blackfly actually pop through the surface film on the upper SoHo & basically fly off before it was even out of the water...


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 Post subject: Re: S. Holston Bugs
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:41 pm 
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Having read the above scientific treatises about SoHo aquatic critters, does this mean I should tie on something other than a pink San Juan worm and a brown woolybugger?


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 Post subject: Tough guys
PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:38 am 
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I seined a western freestone stream for many years, at least 15. Every Wednesday during the summer season. Crystal clear, good rate-of-fall, not a lot of bugs comparatively speaking (almost no pollutants, natural or otherwise). Stoneflys were most prevalent, although there were good numbers of mays and caddis. There were also craneflies. Lots of them. I would take my catch of bugs, divide and identify them, and at the end of the identification session, put them together one-by-one. Like the tatooed misfit hanging out at the pool hall, cranefly nymphs would "get into it" with other bugs no matter what their size. They didn't lose very often, and wound up eating a lot of other specimens. At any rate, craneflies can be found in lots of places. This river was undammed, diurnal flows - average flow about 300 CFS (much higher during runnoff), average temp (summer) roughly 55 degrees (much lower in winter and during runoff), in a relatively pristine location near YNP.


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