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 Post subject: Re: Winter striper opportunities with the long rod?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:58 pm 
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You all have me wondering about the big shad in the lower French Broad. Maybe JT or Kyle will chime in. They are pretty big. Use to catch them on minnows. Seemed like they called them gizzard shad. I'm not sure that wasn't a name for lack of a better one.

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 Post subject: Re: Winter striper opportunities with the long rod?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:43 pm 
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Gizzard shad is a real name. They can get pretty big (up to around 18" - 20"), but most are less than 10". Pretty good baitfish, but better used as fertilizer for roses. I wouldn't target them.

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 Post subject: Re: Winter striper opportunities with the long rod?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:00 am 
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Hickory shad aren't much good to eat either. Most, who keep any, keep them for the roe. American shad are better eating, according to Croaker, but they don't run the Roanoke anymore.

All shad are very bony! Lots of bones, coming off the spine, going in all directions. Most shad fishing is just for fun.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter striper opportunities with the long rod?
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I was just looking for something to do when all else wasn't happening.

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 Post subject: Re: Winter striper opportunities with the long rod?
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According to Native American legend, shad are porcupines. They asked the Gods for a new environment. The Gods turned them inside out and put in the river.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter striper opportunities with the long rod?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:33 am 
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Aaron, I hadn't heard that one, but it's about the truth.

Brad, shad are definitely fun to catch. Willing biters and good fighters. They will definitely put a bend in your rod and a grin on your face.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter striper opportunities with the long rod?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:07 pm 
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Christensen wrote:
That's a good looking fly. This one looks close: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gPa49Fta8s

Any comments on the pros/cons of one hook style over the other? (I see most people are using a straight hook, like Croaker).

Is that a weed guard on Croaker's version?

For an extra quick sink, this version looks good, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7NWCbCSxtY&feature=related


Aaron,

As long as the hook point rides up consistantly you'll catch more Shad, no matter the the hook style. The stiff upper lip of the American and Hickory Shad is where you want the hook to stick (and most other fish as well). I initially used Mustad 34007 size #4 hooks.

Unlike Ed Huffs fly, I use mylar Flashabou and pearl or chartruese Krysal flash for the tail and the wing that looks like a weed guard. Gold dumb bell eyes have also worked.

Be advised that other fish (fresh or salty water) will eat this gaudy eyesore of a fly...

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 Post subject: Re: Winter striper opportunities with the long rod?
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Can you skilled and renowned shad-ows believe I have never fished for shad, much less caught one? Once again, indisputable proof that I need to get out more. That fly could catch a few bonefish, I'd think.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter striper opportunities with the long rod?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:50 am 
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Aaron,
You might check with Rob Domico or Kirk Drowne at Madison River about winter stripers on Lake Norman.

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