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 Post subject: What are these?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:02 am 
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Brown Trout
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Soho Flies... what are they?

Don't know but might a female trico but then at about a size 16, 18 it seems too big.

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Olive?

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 Post subject: Re: What are these?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:29 am 
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Jack, send a note to bugman over on BRFFF. He can identify many of the mayfly species we have. He actually is an entomologist.


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 Post subject: Re: What are these?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:09 pm 
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It's a spinner (final adult molt), possibly a Baetis. Forgot if they have 2 tails that long tho...lemme try to look it up. Bugman knows a lot more than I do, maybe he'll chime in. It's not a trico--they are fatter & smaller & blacker, & the duns have more white in the wings...the SoHo is very rich in bug species, but I've never seen trico's there (yet).

Speaking of bugs, I'm building a Facebook page for my guide service (AlphaTrout Outfitters), and have been putting up some local entomology pics, videos, & info over the past few days. I'm trying to make the site have good information/content, & good interaction, kind of like an online newsletter, rather than a "I'm the most badass, Whorvis-endorsed, guide in the universe so you should hire me today & you'll catch 100 fish with 20 over 20-inches!" -type site like many are. I am also OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS, & your ideas would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! If you are on Facebook, please take a look & hit the Like button if you want to subscribe. Thanks! Maybe I should make a separate post.


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 Post subject: Re: What are these?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:35 am 
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I'm not absolutely sure because it appears that at least one and maybe 2 tails are missing from the first mayfly, but I think it is a Paraleptophlebia common name (blue quill spinner). Do you remember if it had 3 tails? The body of the spinner of that fly is fairly unique.

http://www.troutnut.com/specimen/635


I think the second one is a Baetis, common name (BWO) spinner. I am not expert enough to identify either of these bug to the species level, but I believe they are in the genus I have mentioned.


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 Post subject: Re: What are these?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:08 pm 
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I'm almost positive that it is a BWO Male spinner (bigger eyes, and more translucent abdomen).


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 Post subject: Re: What are these?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:47 pm 
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Bugman thinks they are both Baetis, I would have know if I had seen the total # of tails. 2 would be the correct number for Baetis, and 3 had it of been a Blue Quill. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: What are these?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:23 pm 
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Jack- What part of your body are they coming from, that may help also.


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 Post subject: Re: What are these?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:45 pm 
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:lol:
plumbob wrote:
Jack- What part of your body are they coming from, that may help also.
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 Post subject: Re: What are these?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:19 am 
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It appears that one tail is folded under the fly in that first photo and that both have only two tails. I admit, I'm not sure what the proper names would be but I'd be fishing BWO patterns nevertheless. Nice pictures too.
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 Post subject: Re: What are these?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:47 am 
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They had only two long tails. The body was more translucent (almost clear) before capture. They turned a little darker after capture. After looking in several reference books, I tend to agree with those who believe these were BWO male spinners. They were all over my red car at streamside. I was a bit surprised that they were larger than any of the duns that I had seen on the stream. Perhaps that is normal.


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