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 Post subject: Developing a new DH water- Input wanted
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:37 am 
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Smallmouth Bass

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Location: Big Stone Gap, VA
I have been involved in some conversations about developing at least one new delayed harvest stream here in Wise County, VA. The county government is very interested in making this happen, VA DGIF is on board and the local chapter of TU a big supporter.

The major purpose of this effort would be to attract visitors/tourists.

What are somethings that would attract you?
What do you want to see?
What would get you to come and fish it for a day?
What would get you to hold a PFF?

Would you pay $3 to park? what about $5?

The water would require a Virginia fishing license and trout stamp- about $85 a year if you live out of state.

What are your thoughts, advice and input?

Thanks,
Stuart

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 Post subject: Re: Developing a new DH water- Input wanted
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:49 pm 
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Hey Red
First off, Good on you for putting the effort forth.

As far as putting on a PFF- How much water we talking about? A 3 mile strip of delayed harvest is not going to do it. What other resources are close by that justify the cost of a VA license- for $85 the South Holston and those other creeks we fish in E Tenn better be there, if you know what I mean.

What facilities are close by that could handle a group of 30 guys?

Pay to park- that tells me there is a limited amount of water.

I think Delayed Harvest is a good thing-
good for local fishermen who support the program
good for beginners
good, because you get multiple catches per fish
good because it extends the catchable fish season

But to be honest, it would not attract me, unless there was the promise of HUGE fish, then I would try it once.

I do think the draw for local guys would be tremendous. NC delayed harvest program has been pretty successful and yes, there has to be an economic impact for the area, gas snacks, drinks etc, etc.

But our most successful DH areas have a draw. The TUck and Nantahala are easy for Atlanta folks to get to. Those streams also have have other resources close by that make it a draw, (camping, Cherokee and the Casinos, high end cabins, GSMNP, and lots and lots of water other than DH) Does this area have that.

If not, then all you have is the Mitchell River in Surry County.

DO it for the locals its a good thing. And again, good on you for helping to push it through. Every bit of water we get is a good thing!


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 Post subject: Re: Developing a new DH water- Input wanted
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:43 pm 
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I'll second what Bob said.

Plus you will have to have a creek that will sustain a few hold over fish plus the access will need to be pretty good.
Unfortunately,you will find out how many poachers that you have in Wise county once you put it into DH.
Another possible set back is this. If there is a large population of otters nearby then they will clean it out for you in short order.
How far is Wise county from Shady Valley ??

JT

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 Post subject: Re: Developing a new DH water- Input wanted
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:29 pm 
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Location: Big Stone Gap, VA
Thank you for the input!!
Big Stone Gap is about an hour/ hour and 1/4 from Shady Valley. This water would not work for a PFF, but now I can show the county administrator what is needed for groups like PFF.

The DH water would be 2-4 miles long, and about 60ft wide. We are talking about the Middle Fork of the Powell River between Big Stone Gap and Appalachia. The water looks like great water for trout.

I understand about the license fee thing- it is one reason I have not been hitting the SoHo in the past year or two. I will bring this up with DGIF when I see them- high out of state license fees are a great way for a state to say "screw you and keep out". To be honest this area is just not as good as East TN, yet. If they keep improving then in 8-10 years it may be. East TN is probably the best trout+fly fishing area in the southeast.

There is other water that is being developed around here. The new fishing regs book will list two new special regs water- mountain for brook trout and Little Stoney for all trout. The Clinch river will go to 20" minimum on smallies with a harvest limit of one.

I don't know if there are river otters in that section, but it is worth finding out and maybe doing a little trapping.

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Stuart, aka Red

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