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 Post subject: Furled leader question
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:56 pm 
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I am a newbie to furled leaders. Last trip, Gary (Bamboo10) gave me one of his furled leaders. The little card he put in the bag says 14 foot, but he told me that includes the mono (or flouro) tippet that is looped on. I used up the flouro. How many inches of 5x or 6X should I attach to the furled part? Inquiring minds need to know before the Soho trip next week.
Thanks for any input.


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 Post subject: Re: Furled leader question
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:56 pm 
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I used to build my own furled leaders many moons ago, I still have the jig to do them somewhere in that garage... Believe it or not, there is an actual formula to figure out what size and how much tippet you should add to X furled leader for it to be the most efficient. Since that is a 14 foot long furled leader with the tippet I would measure the furled leader alone, subtract that number from 14 and add that much tippet to it. That is the simplest way, someone else might want to chime in with actual experience rather than numbers...

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 Post subject: Re: Furled leader question
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:23 am 
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La_Trucha wrote:
Since that is a 14 foot long furled leader with the tippet I would measure the furled leader alone, subtract that number from 14 and add that much tippet to it. That is the simplest way, someone else might want to chime in with actual experience rather than numbers...

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That takes all the fun out of it, i was going to suggest 10' of tippet just to hear him cuss :D


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 Post subject: Re: Furled leader question
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:58 pm 
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La_Trucha wrote:
I used to build my own furled leaders many moons ago, I still have the jig to do them somewhere in that garage... Believe it or not, there is an actual formula to figure out what size and how much tippet you should add to X furled leader for it to be the most efficient. Since that is a 14 foot long furled leader with the tippet I would measure the furled leader alone, subtract that number from 14 and add that much tippet to it. That is the simplest way, someone else might want to chime in with actual experience rather than numbers...

See you there, im about 99% sure we are going...


I cannot do math. :shock: I need someone to tell me how many inches of tippet to add to the furled part.


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 Post subject: Re: Furled leader question
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:11 pm 
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Take a measuring tape, measure the furled leader alone, tell me that and I will tell you what you need to add.

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 Post subject: Re: Furled leader question
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:28 pm 
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The furled leader is 100 inches long.


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 Post subject: Re: Furled leader question
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:37 pm 
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Leader needs 68 inches of tippet total. Of those 68 inches you can either use just one size or come down in size. Later is recommended... So in my case i would do 34 inches of #5 tippet and then other 34 inches of #3 or #4 tippet. Look at your cast and if you can see your cast look for knots in the leader. that will generally tell you if you need to modify the length or weight of your tippets.

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 Post subject: Re: Furled leader question
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:30 pm 
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Too much math for me. I might just add about 4 feet of 6X onto the furled leader. That'll give me about 12 feet.
I can't cast a 14 foot leader anyway. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Furled leader question
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:38 pm 
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too much math? I did the math for you already brother. 68 inches are 5 feet and 8 inches. that is the total amount of tippet you need. you can further tapered it down your tippet if you do half that leght which is 3feet and 4 inches of 5x and then another segment of 3 feet and 4 inches of 3x. if you don't want to use anything smaller than 5x at the end of The tippet then do a section of 7x to 5x. if that is not clear go ahead and do what you planned, it should work as well and you will end up with a 12 feet total instead of 14. see you in the river.

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 Post subject: Re: Furled leader question
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:51 pm 
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I can play the guitar and piano, but cannot do math. People always tell me "Music is math -- you must be good at math."
No. Music is ridiculously simple math. I's either 1-2-3-4 or 1-2-3 over and over again. :D


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