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 Post subject: Dumb Bell question
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:49 am 
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Those of you that tie a lot of Clousers and similar patterns for smallies, trout, and variety of other species, what size eye do you prefer for stream and small rivers? Not really deep water. Maybe 1 to 5 ft.

I am sitting here thinking about warmer days and how to tune up my smallie game some. It's hard to believe days you get run off the water by the heat around 11 in the morning isn't it :)

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb Bell question
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:59 am 
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they basically come in 3 sizes; small, medium & large. I'd experiment with the small and maybe the medium.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb Bell question
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:05 pm 
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Brad,
I would second Flytier.
Since you are not going deeper than 5 feet , the small size would be about right. Most dumbell eye mfrs. call their "small" about 3/16 oz.

Some mfrs. have a size X-Small and a mini size, but they are too small for a smallmouth streamer.

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb Bell question
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:42 pm 
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You can also use bead chain when you don't want a lot of weight. I'd rate a bead chain clouser as being a 1' to 2' deep fly, when fished with floating line. Full sinking line would probably get it down in 5'.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb Bell question
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:03 pm 
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Brad,

To add to what Paul said. Chain eyes are pretty versatile weights. Of course, a chain eye Bully is really strong medicine on deeper bream. Our friend Backwoods Joe (Joe Johnson) being the author.
Chain eyes come in multiple weights........... some of which are different from the dumb bells . Since you are snowed in, this would be a perfect opportunity to tie multiple weight bugs and test run them to suit your water :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb Bell question
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:53 pm 
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Oops! Sorry for this errant post. When I saw the thread title ("Dumb Bell Question"), I thought Brad was trying to get in touch with me.

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb Bell question
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:05 pm 
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Brad....if your looking for big eyes and minimal depth give the aluminum deep sea eyes a try....or do like I do on the Death....slap on some 3D eyes and cover em' with epoxy...you can vary the amount of epoxy for different depths.

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb Bell question
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:06 pm 
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Brad.....I use Real Eyes Plus, made by Spirit River.
They come in 5/32", 3/16", and 7/32".

Here's a look at Cabelas page:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ ... stid=99281

Here's a link to the Spirit River site for more info:
http://www.spiritriverflies.com/materia ... s_eyes.php

I use the 5/32" for hook sizes 4-8, the 3/16" for hook sizes 1-4, and the 7/16" for bigger flies. These are for Clousers I tie. Sometimes I'll use a smaller size on a larger fly to reduce the sink rate.

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb Bell question
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:35 am 
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Thanks for the information and suggestions. It looks a lot like my fishing is gonna be confined to the FB and shorter trips. Missed another student day today :(

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