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 Post subject: Tomah Joe
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:31 pm 
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Steelhead recently sent me some links for using wood duck flank for winging wet flies (thanks pal). I don't know squat about classic wet flies but the Tomah Joe caught my eye. Figured that thing just has to catch fish. Here is my fourth and best try.
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Found out just how good my eyesight has become. funny how that gold tinsel looked perfect till I saw the picture on the computer screen :roll: .


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 Post subject: Re: Tomah Joe
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:48 pm 
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magnification sucks :evil: LOL still very pretty fly !! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Tomah Joe
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:13 pm 
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Theron
That looks great. I agree magnification does suck.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomah Joe
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:42 am 
Theron, that fly looks great! I was meaning to take a stab at tying one this weekend to post but never made it past trying my hand at some "Laramies". For the life of me I can't get the throat hackles to look right on wet flies. How do you get the hackle throat to look so perfect on your flies? In the past I've always cheated and wrapped a hackle collar and pulled it down under the hook and tied it down to make the throat, but learned that doesn't work on size 16's.

As for the photo, that magnification makes every minor thing just jump out at you. But I still don't think the trout will mind the tinsel wrap ;) That is a great looking wet fly. :D

Oh, and is that tied on a 3366? Those hooks have to be the best hook value going, I hope they didn't discontinue them when they redesigned the Mustad line...


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 Post subject: Re: Tomah Joe
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:13 pm 
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Adam,
Yes that's a 3366 "all around". I just hunted through my #8 hooks and that one seemed the most similar in proportions to the photo in the link. Works perfectly and I like the straight eye, seems easier to finish the head with it.

I confess, I may not know the "proper" way to tie a beard in. I tie mine in at an angle (tips high and butts low) on the back side of the hook shank with a couple mild tension wraps. Then I use the thread to torque it around and under the shank till it's positioned properly while coaxing it and using pinch wraps. Don't know if that helps. Small flies are always harder.


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 Post subject: Re: Tomah Joe
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:50 am 
That does help Theron, I have been inverting the hook (rotary vise, not actually turning the hook over) and trying to get the hackle in there with pinch wraps. I think my problem was starting where I wanted the barbs to end up. They would splay out and spin up the side of the hook, they wouldn't stay concentrated under the shank. I will try starting the hackle on top next time I can get on my vise. That fly looks so nice, I keep going back to the picture, it looks like one of those trout/panfish/bass type wets that would work in a range of sizes. I really need to get out, every time I see a fly I daydream about how/where I would fish it, and there never seems to be snow on the ground in these dreams ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Tomah Joe
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:40 pm 
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steelhead wrote:
I will try starting the hackle on top next time I can get on my vise.

I just reread that. I think I may not have explained it like I meant to. What I meant by "back side of the hook shank" was the side away from me when in the vise, not the top.


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 Post subject: Re: Tomah Joe
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:08 am 
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nice tie

work on the tinsel body to eliminate the gaps


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 Post subject: Re: Tomah Joe
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:59 pm 
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That's her pal,
The very same photo I had printed out and had laying by the desk for guidance :mrgreen: . Came from this link and scroll down a little:
http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/bergman/
Darn nice flies on that site,
Thanks for the link steelhead.


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