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 Post subject: What's the Great Dubbing Secret?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:51 am 
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I'm having less than success at getting the dubbing to stay on the thread. If there's some dubbing wax in the paraphernalia that the 'Crawler brought, I haven't found it. Is there something else that will help the dubbing to stick to or stay on the thread or is there some technique taught by a Jivaro shaman and whispered to Streamer during an Ayahuasca-drinking ceremony that someone would care to share?

The good news? I've learned to wrap the lead wire and how to use the whip finish tool. Thanks, gents.


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 Post subject: Re: What's the Great Dubbing Secret?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:02 am 
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Be sparse with dubbing. It really easy to get to much out.

Twist the dubbing onto the thread in the Opposite motion of snapping your fingers. That will help it to stay on the thread during wrapping.

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 Post subject: Re: What's the Great Dubbing Secret?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:49 pm 
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Well !!! First off yunz gotta gits yoseff a long haired cat :mrgreen:

Now seriously, dubbing wax is a good thing, but most of us don't use it very often. Lick your fingers b/4 twisting helps a little. Keep your thread very tight and follow Brad's instruction about not using much dubbing.

What you really need to do is to go to a Lyin & Tyin and watch some of the experienced tyers. This will take light years off your learning curve

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 Post subject: Re: What's the Great Dubbing Secret?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:00 pm 
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Just spit on your finger tips. Seriously, it works. Don't lick your fingers. You'll find out why if there is a bit of dubbing on them. PFFHT! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: What's the Great Dubbing Secret?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:14 pm 
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Here's a not too bad video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiCchFXUIWM

NOTE: The dubbing is s p a r s e. Note too, that the dubbing is applied with heavy pressure between the thumb and index finger, and it's only applied in one direction. Here, it's clockwise onto the thread as Brad suggested. If you rub the dubbing in both directions,in a back and forth motion, you are not dubbing; you are dubbing/un-dubbing/dubbing/un-dubbing/dubbing/un-dubbing.

I don't use dubbing wax either. I ask JT to apply East Tennessee Holy Water (140 proof) to my dubbing before I tie. Can't keep the trout off of those flies. Or half of Shady Valley, come to think of it.

Come to Lyin' and Tyin' again, and this time, try to pay attention!

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 Post subject: Re: What's the Great Dubbing Secret?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:16 pm 
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I remember some one saying about dubbing- take what you think you need and cut that amount in half, then one of those piles in half, then you'll only have twice as much dubbing as you need.

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 Post subject: Re: What's the Great Dubbing Secret?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:47 pm 
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i either use spit or I rub the sides of my nose with my thumb and finger, this puts a little oil on the fingers and I think that helps. I think Tom taught me that trick.

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 Post subject: Re: What's the Great Dubbing Secret?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:36 pm 
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ctchrelz wrote:
i either use spit or I rub the sides of my nose with my thumb and finger, this puts a little oil on the fingers and I think that helps. I think Tom taught me that trick.

pt


I might have just been picking my nose...but hey if it works for ya :D


Geezer...as most have said simply twisting fine amounts in one direction works with a lot of dubbing...but there are some very soft dubbing blends like rabbit that is hard to get to stick or stay on the thread while trying to twist it...those types are better put into a dubbing loop and applied sparsley and with a little super sticky wax on the thread.....I did'nt watch the video Streamer put up...but if it does'nt demonstrate a dubbing loop...check youtube for a video on that.

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 Post subject: Re: What's the Great Dubbing Secret?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:18 am 
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Slightly amusing.

Look, there are multiple ways of doing dubbing, and they all work. I regularly use 4 different techniques, depending on the look I want. You need to come to L&T, and sit down with someone and have them show you how. It's not hard, once you've seen it done.

If you can't wait 2 more months, go to a CFFC gathering and ask one of the tiers there....


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 Post subject: Re: What's the Great Dubbing Secret?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:55 am 
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Streamer wrote:
I don't use dubbing wax either. I ask JT to apply East Tennessee Holy Water (140 proof) to my dubbing before I tie.


Been cutting it again JT?


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