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 Post subject: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:51 pm 
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Any tips on the best way to handle small materials? I am messing with size 20 hooks and 1.5 beads. Wasting too much time dropping hooks and bead and then trying to find them.

If anyone has tips on the best way to get the bead out of the bag (presumably, tweezers of some sort but what do you recommend) and getting the bead on the hook (fingers, forceps etc), I would be most grateful for your assistance. Any other tips and tricks would also be welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:08 pm 
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As far as getting the beads out of the bag I have a triangular beading tray that I dump the bag out into. It has sloped sides that make it easy to grasp. The pointed ends makes it easy to pour the surplus back into the bag.
Here's a example on Amazon

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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
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Aaron-
Try finding a pair of small thin jawed needle nose pliers, they help with the handling of the beads. Klein makes a nice set.

I also use a magnet Sheet ( the kind you out on the fridge from the Vet or Drs office) You can find one about 3x5 that will attach itself toyour pedastal base. Put you a few hooks on there and they will stay in place through most gentle bumps and brushes.

Hope that helps


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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:19 pm 
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For the hooks I use a hackle plier clip (radio shack has them) and hold the hook with the clip near the hook eye; as far as putting the bead on I pick them up by mashing my index finger on top of the bead ... it usually sticks long enough to thread the bead.


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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:09 pm 
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gqualls wrote:
For the hooks I use a hackle plier clip (radio shack has them) and hold the hook with the clip near the hook eye; as far as putting the bead on I pick them up by mashing my index finger on top of the bead ... it usually sticks long enough to thread the bead.


yeah, what he said...I learned from him. He has me tying 26's now. Before I met him I thought small was moving from a 14 to a 16.

I used his hackle plier clip tip last night.

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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
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headgear wrote:
gqualls wrote:
For the hooks I use a hackle plier clip (radio shack has them) and hold the hook with the clip near the hook eye; as far as putting the bead on I pick them up by mashing my index finger on top of the bead ... it usually sticks long enough to thread the bead.


yeah, what he said...I learned from him. He has me tying 26's now. Before I met him I thought small was moving from a 14 to a 16.

I used his hackle plier clip tip last night.


Is this the item you are using? http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062221&CAWELAID=107594581

As another question -- when you are tying those tiny bugs, what gauge wire are you using, if you happen to know? I just came back from Michael's and noticed that they had some good-looking wire as small as 32 gauge. http://www.michaels.com/Jewelry-Essentials%E2%84%A2-Stringing-Beading-Wire/bd0535,default,pd.html


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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:03 pm 
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Ditto on the test clips. Those serve a lot purposes on the tying bench.

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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
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Taking my handy dandy calipers to my tying bench I found the following:

French Tinsel - Small (no brand) .0040"
Ultra Wire SM .0065"
34GA craft wire .0075"
32GA craft wire .0080"
Ultra Wire BR .0085"
30 GA craft wire .0100"
28 GA craft wire .0120"

I would probably use the Ultra Wire SM on a size 20.

I second the magnetic pads. Brass and tungsten beads stick to it pretty well, making it a whole lot easier to thread is onto the hook.


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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
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AC:

yes, on the clips. That's right.

We have been using Extra Small Ultra Wire on our smallest midges.
I just checked, the 32 guage is comparable to Small in Ultra Wire.
I don't have calipers so da' Peddler or teachrtec would have to give you exact measurements.

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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
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Woops, looks like Paul beat me by a minute...Yeah what he said.
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