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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:27 pm 
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Hey Caliper Guys measure some Extra Small Ultra Wire.......looks like it should come out @ .0045".

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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
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These jewelers pliers help me get the beads on the hooks.
Example of the pliers

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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:09 pm 
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Sorry, I don't have any XSM. I need to get some.


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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:49 pm 
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Aaron:

Here's a simple tip for quickly threading a dozen beads onto small hooks.

Pour out a dozen beads onto the desk top. Take plain Scotch tape and wrap it sticky side out around the tip of your left index finger. Press your taped finger against the beads and pick all of them up at one time. The beads are stable enough on the tape to stay in place while all the beads are threaded. If the hooks are too small to thread with your fingers, use tweezers to hold the hooks.

Even if the wrong side of the bead is exposed, you can use your thumb or the tweezers to roll the bead around on the tape until the desired position is obtained.

Also a pair 2.0 reading glasses will assist with the detailed work.

Hope this helps a bit ...Cyberfish

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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:28 am 
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Cyberfish wrote:
Aaron:

Here's a simple tip for quickly threading a dozen beads onto small hooks.

Pour out a dozen beads onto the desk top. Take plain Scotch tape and wrap it sticky side out around the tip of your left index finger. Press your taped finger against the beads and pick all of them up at one time. The beads are stable enough on the tape to stay in place while all the beads are threaded. If the hooks are too small to thread with your fingers, use tweezers to hold the hooks.

Even if the wrong side of the bead is exposed, you can use your thumb or the tweezers to roll the bead around on the tape until the desired position is obtained.

Also a pair 2.0 reading glasses will assist with the detailed work.

Hope this helps a bit ...Cyberfish


brilliant! Thanks Bill


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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:03 am 
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Devinsdad wrote:
Cyberfish wrote:
Aaron:

Here's a simple tip for quickly threading a dozen beads onto small hooks.

Pour out a dozen beads onto the desk top. Take plain Scotch tape and wrap it sticky side out around the tip of your left index finger. Press your taped finger against the beads and pick all of them up at one time. The beads are stable enough on the tape to stay in place while all the beads are threaded. If the hooks are too small to thread with your fingers, use tweezers to hold the hooks.

Even if the wrong side of the bead is exposed, you can use your thumb or the tweezers to roll the bead around on the tape until the desired position is obtained.

Also a pair 2.0 reading glasses will assist with the detailed work.

Hope this helps a bit ...Cyberfish


brilliant! Thanks Bill


I am gonna try that :)

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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
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I simply use tweezers to set the bead on the hook which is in the vise gripped by the shank and held hook point up. With the hook point up, the bead stays put until driven home past the barb or barb nub (not to be confused with Nub from another Southern board)
I small piece of short napped carpet under the vice helps keep the bead that inevidably falls from travelling very far... most of the time. The magnet under the vise won't work on brass or tungsten.

I have no Extra Small Ultra Wire. I did take home from a hospital visit a catheter they used for a procedure. When I stripped the covering off, inside I found three wires, red, green and silver that measure .0015". Small stuff indeed. To spice it up even more, the silver wire is made of platinum! Good if you want to tie the worlds most expensive midge.


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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:30 am 
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Excellent tips from everyone. Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:46 am 
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I take a handful of beads and a box of hooks and put them all in an old film canister and shake it for like 15 minutes, eventually some of the beads wind up on the hooks! Try it and let me know how it works! :lol:

These have all been excellent suggestions, except of course peddler's which was sort of acceptable.
I'm going to try the tape option. What I do now is put the bead on my finger by mashing it as someone else mentioned then just work the hook in and push the bead down. it works, I've only lost 2-3 hooks and beads on the floor all year and none of the hooks have turned up in a dogs paw. So I like the idea of not losing any hooks or beads. Lesley usually sits next to me while I tie on the coffee table and when she heres the ping of a hook going flying or me going 'sh!t' I usually get a glaring that lasts a few minutes then a 'was that a hook or a bead?' it's always a bead when she asks!

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 Post subject: Re: Tips for handling small materials (size 20 and smaller)
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:27 pm 
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My technique on flies 20 and smaller --

Spend 20 minutes trying get a bead on the hook, lose about 10 beads and few hooks, try to tie the little sucker, break the thread when trying to whip finish, throw it all away in disgust, put all my fly tying stuff away (again), and order some little flies. :D


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