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 Post subject: Frank Sawyer PT
PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:23 pm 
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Any of you all ever tie and fished a Frank Sawyer styled PT?

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Just wondering how it compared to the more modern versions and if it were i use?

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 Post subject: Re: Frank Sawyer PT
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no no no no ;) :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: Frank Sawyer PT
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The board was acting glitchy didn't mean to go post wild :)

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 Post subject: Re: Frank Sawyer PT
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Did you notice the base on his vise?

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 Post subject: Re: Frank Sawyer PT
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I've seen that before, but never noticed that the vise was clamped to the arm of the chair. Interesting.

No, I've never tried to tie one with just pheasant's tail and copper wire. I like the peacock thorax we use today.


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 Post subject: Re: Frank Sawyer PT
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Innovative for its time, but it fishes like a downrigger. The newer/improved versions are better, IMHO.

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 Post subject: Re: Frank Sawyer PT
PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:54 am 
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I would put some feet on it. I agree with Jule about it fishing like a down rigger. But in the dead of winter , it might be the ticket


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 Post subject: Re: Frank Sawyer PT
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:00 am 
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The fly really doesn't weigh all that much. Sawyer tied it with a very fine wire, I doubt it weighted any more than today's bead head versions. His theory on the legs was that the BWO was a swimming nymph and tucked it's legs in by it's side as it swam.
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The American version we have today with a peacock thorax and legs was developed by Al Troth, the same fellow who brought us the EHC :D


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 Post subject: Re: Frank Sawyer PT
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This style of PT, with no “legs”, is still used by many of the old-time regulars on the SoHo tailwater. I know of one SoHo angler that will clear the fly shop bins of any slim bodied, no legged PTs. I may be mistaken but I think some shops/vendors sell it under the name of English PT. Correct – it is a great olive imitation, and if you use turkey tail, and adjust the profile, it makes a great imitation for the immature yellows.


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 Post subject: Re: Frank Sawyer PT
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:29 am 
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Steve....I saw a video or SBS somewhere that shows what I thought was the original Sawyer version in which the thorax was built up with wraps of copper wire. then wrapped with PT fibers. That's the version to which I referred regarding the hefty weight. My bad. The picture of yours looks more like the one that I remember from Flytying 101 back in 1989 or so. Thanks for the nice pic. That's a beauty.

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